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  Let’s Speculate!!!

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you know the organization is slowly going down.

  not as fast as we would wish, but nevertheless it is crumbling.

  five (5) year old child baptisms, smaller magazines, child sexual abuse exposed, smaller annual growth, no one wants to reach out, young ones leaving.

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  I think we will see a rupture in the organization sometime in the future. A split similar to what happened during the bible students era after the death of C.T. Russel.

  I believe that all the negative information coming to light will undoubtedly have an effect on some JWs in very high positions within the organization, motivating them to seize the opportunity to bravely push for changes within the organization which the uptight, unreasonable ones like AM III would stubbornly refuse, and this will result in a major scandal that would see a faction of Watchtower higher-ups breaking away to form a new group. If lawyers are involved in the faction, they could really make things messy and complicated for the "original" Watchtower leadership, tying them up in court proceedings and injunctions and what have you.
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  Light speed isn't as fast as Hollywood portrays it.

  by Island Man in

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  2. entertainment

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aau_btbn7s

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  So the sun is 8 minutes and 20 seconds away. So the sun actually sets 8:20 minutes before you see it set; and it rises 8:20 minutes before you see it rise. We can't ever see the present state of the cosmos. We're always looking back in time.
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  Light speed isn't as fast as Hollywood portrays it.

  by Island Man in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aau_btbn7s

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AAU_btBN7s
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  help me understand: My wife seems to be utterly detested by skelletons and skulls. Why?

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so, here i am again....asking more questions to help me understand my wife.

  she was brought up in the cult in the 70's and 80's.

  so i can only imagine what kind of indoctrination she deals with.

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  I agree with SecretSlaveClass. Skulls and skeletons are often associated with occultism so JWs quickly associate them with demonism. Some JWs associate anything grotesque or scary-looking with demonism, regardless of whether or not the portrayal professes to be occult in nature. A sci-fi portrayal of a grotesque-looking creature would very easily be labelled as "demonic" by a brainwashed JW.

  Aside from it's occult connotations, the skull is often used simply as an iconic symbol of death. Thus the skull and bones symbol of the pirates is meant to strike fear in the heart of their victims that they (the pirates) are fearsome, murderous thugs who are not to be trifled with as they will not think twice of killing you if you fail to comply with their wishes or if you dared to defy them.

  The skull is also used as part of universal signs used to label products as being toxic or poisonous.

  It's possible that humans evolved a deep-seated aversion to the sight of skulls as this afforded a survival advantage. Early pre-humans who avoided being around skulls also avoided the local environmental hazards that killed the persons who became the skulls.
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  "The governing body has asked me to..."

  by OverlappingGeneralizations in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have heard that phrase several times on the jw broadcast, uttered by gb members!

  "the governing body has asked me to bring to your attention (whatever)".

  aren't you the governing body?

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  I think I know the reason for that statement.

  It is usually given when the GB member is going to talk about something that is potentially controversial or new to JWs. On such potentially controversial issues, there is the risk that the GB member would either be hated or loved for presenting it.

  When it is a new or somewhat unconventional issue, there is also the potential for JWs to be wondering if the GB member is giving his own views or that of the organization.

  The statement: "the Governing Body has asked me to..." serves to separate the potentially controversial or unconventional message from the lone GB presenter, putting it squarely unto the Governing Body/Faithful and Discreet Slave collective. That way, JWs are being asked to accept the bitter pill as coming from the God appointed Faithful and Disreet Slave who must be obeyed, rather than merely being the view coming from rubber-faced Lett, or Uptight Tony.

  Any praise that a new, innovative or unconventional message brings must also go to the collective and not the lone GB presenter - so that the other GB members don't get jealous or suspicious about a lone GB member gaining more praise and prominence in the eyes of all JWs because of a message he happened to have presented.

  It might also be a way of suggesting to JWs that what is about to be said is a very important message coming from the faithful and discreet slave and may thus indicate to us awake ones that this is the real "meat" of the program - the key bit of indoctrination that Watchtower wants to feed the JWs with for the month.

  You see, the JW broadcast program is very similar to a study edition of the Watchtower. There are the experiences of JWs and other fluff pieces about the work of the organization. These mirror the supplementary articles for personal reading, found in the study edition. There there is the "the Governing Body has asked me to..." segment of the program which mirrors the congregation Watchtower study articles in the study edition.
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  2016 SPECIAL TALK---ARE YOU ON THE ROAD TO EVERLASTING LIFE?

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  are you on the road to everlasting life?.

  note to the speaker: help bible students and interested ones to understand why and how to make further spiritual progress..

  emphasize the many sources of help available, and warmly encourage them to act without delay.

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  God’s requirements are reasonable; they reflect his love and greatly benefit us

  Being asked to shun your own children because they change to a different belief system can hardly be described as reasonable. Being asked to refuse your child a life-saving blood transfusion in the absence of alternatives, can hardly be described as reasonable, loving or beneficial.
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  2016 SPECIAL TALK---ARE YOU ON THE ROAD TO EVERLASTING LIFE?

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  are you on the road to everlasting life?.

  note to the speaker: help bible students and interested ones to understand why and how to make further spiritual progress..

  emphasize the many sources of help available, and warmly encourage them to act without delay.

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  I predict that the song they will use for that talk is: "This is the way"
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  A small update on the ongoing investigation by the Royal Commission

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i think you people would like to know that since the public hearing has finished.

  there has been ongoing contact made to me by the staff at the rc.

  they have been inundated with calls and the same experiences or similar ones are being related.. the staff are not backwards in coming forwards with insights that they have shared.

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  Island Man

  "I used to make shepherding calls until I was reproved for only shepherding the prettier sisters"

  Did you use your shepherd's staff, snugglebunny?
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  Drama played at pioneer school

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was having breakfast at home earlier this morning when my mil sat down at the table.

  she started re hashing her previous day with us (wife and myself).

  she was relating a story she got from another close relative who just finished the pioneer school.

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  What! no mention of the need to read the bible or the need to have faith in Jesus? Why am I not surprised?
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  Women going topless in NYC.

  by Fisherman in

  1. social
  2. humour

  within the past couple of days, women in nyc are going around topless in public.

  i read in a news article, that in new york city, there are no laws against women going topless in public.the article says that family people are getting offended and they want to stop topless women in public.

  in europe women show their breasts on on tv, the beach, and breast feeding in public.

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  Island Man

  Ooooooh, Nude York,
  Ooooooh, Nude York.

  Grew up in a town,
  that is famous as a place of
  nudey scenes.

  Noise is always loud,
  there are sirens all around
  and the strippers are lean.

  If I could make out here,
  I could make out anywhere
  that's what they say.

  Seeing my tits in light,
  or my name in marquees
  found down on Broadway

  Even if it aint all who sees,
  I got a pocket full of dreams
  Baby I'm from Nude York

  Concrete jungle wet dreams
  are made of, there's nothing
  you can't do, now you're in Nude York

  These strippers make you feel brand new
  "flashing headlights" inspire you
  hear it for Nude York, Nude York, Nude York

  On the areola view
  there ain't never a curfew
  ladies work it so hard.

  Such a melting pot
  on the corner without a frock
  preachers pray to God.

  Hail a gypsy gal
  takes me down from Harlem
  to the Brooklyn bridge

  So one sleeps the nights
  with a hunger from more than
  an empty fridge

  I'm going to make out by any means
  I got a pocket of wet dreams
  Baby i'm from Nude York

  Concrete jungle wet dreams
  are made of, there's nothing
  you can't do, now you're in Nude York
  

  These strippers make you feel brand new
  "flashing headlights" inspire you
  hear it for Nude York, Nude York, Nude York

  One hand in the air for the big titties
  strippers, wet dreams, all looking pretty
  

  No place in the world that could compare
  put your lighters in the air
  everybody say yeah yeah, yeah Nude York
  

  Concrete jungle wet dreams
  are made of, there's nothing
  you can't do, now you're in Nude York

  These strippers make you feel brand new
  "flashing headlights" inspire you
  hear it for Nude York, Nude York, Nude York